From the album ‘Ad Nauseam‘ (1978).
- Clive:
- What-, what-, what-, what-, what-, what-, what-, what-, what one has to wonder, i-i-i-is why, artists th-he calibre of Cook and Moore…
- Derek:
- Yes.
- Clive:
- …should resort to material which, er, basically could be done by, erm, er,…
- Derek:
- By me?
- Clive:
- By you!
- Derek:
- Yes.
- Clive:
- Yes, and I-, I mean, I don’t know if you saw the play the other night on television, "No Man’s Land", by Harold Pinter,
- Derek:
- Yes, yes I did, yes, yes.
- Clive:
- Now Pinter uses these words, these-, I-, I suppose to the general public, shocking words,…
- Derek:
- Yes, yes, of course.
- Clive:
- …but he uses them to effect.
- Derek:
- To, yes, to punctuate his, his, his, his, his…
- Clive:
- He punctuates his dialogue.
- Derek:
- …his drama, yes, yes.
- Clive:
- And when he uses the word "arsehole"…
- Derek:
- God!
- Clive:
- …it means something.
- Derek:
- Exactly.
- Clive:
- And, er, "prick"…
- Derek:
- Yes.
- Clive:
- …and "cunt"
- Derek:
- Yes.
- Clive:
- Take on this sort of, erm, er-r…
- Derek:
- Well, metaphysical sort of, er-r-r…
- Clive:
- …metaphysical punctuation which I-, I find absolutely delightful.
- Derek:
- Become almost sounds.
- Clive:
- Especially with, er, Geilgud and, erm, Richardson, who is so…
- Derek:
- Of course, erm.
- Clive:
- …so absolutely terrific. But, um,…
- Derek:
- Mmm, yes, I mean, "arsehole" i-i-in-in Richarson’s mouth is-, it comes out as, er, erm,…
- Clive:
- Er, pure gold.
- Derek:
- Pure gold.
- Clive:
- But, erm, when Cook and Moore, I mean, ah, it’s not the same. I mean,… "prick" in the hands of Pinter is-, is, erm, as you say, a punctuation point, er, er-r-r,…
- Derek:
- Yes, an epithet.
- Clive:
- …a marvellous moment…
- Derek:
- Yes.
- Clive:
- …the end of an extremely witty line.
- Derek:
- Yes.
- Clive:
- Whereas, er-r-r, a "prick" or a "cunt" in the hands of Cook and Moore, it’s just a gratuitous "prick" or "cunt".
- Derek:
- One feels it’s being abused in some way.
- Clive:
- It-, it is being abused,…
- Derek:
- It’s-, it’s being, I-, I-, er,…
- Clive:
- …and I myself, I-, I cannot see why, in the civilised world, it is necessary for people with a certain amount of, um, understanding…
- Derek:
- Yes.
- Clive:
- …having been to university, to use the word "prick" or "fuck" or…
- Derek:
- "Cunt"
- Clive:
- …"cunt". I mean, I-, I never have the slightest urge…
- Derek:
- Why-, why’d you not accept…
- Clive:
- …to use the word "fuck", do you?
- Derek:
- I mean, why’d I-, no.
- Clive:
- Do you ever say "fuck"?
- Derek:
- I never say "fuck".
- Clive:
- No,…
- Derek:
- ‘ere, I mean I would rather say…
- Clive:
- …I mean, why the fuck should I say "fuck"?
- Derek:
- Exactly.
- Clive:
- I-, I’ve got no reason for saying "fuck".
- Derek:
- I’d rather say "carpet" than "fuck".
- Clive:
- No fucking reason to say "fuck".
- Derek:
- Exactly. Who the fuck cares about "fuck"?
- Clive:
- It’s absolutely fucking stupid to say "fuck". I mean, w-…
- Derek:
- Exactly. I mean…
- Clive:
- …what could be more stupid, than going around, the whole time saying "fuck" and "cunt" and "prick" and "arsehole"…
- Derek:
- (struggling to interrupt) Exactly. It’s just…
- Clive:
- …"tit" and "bum", "shit", it’s just stupid.
- Derek:
- Exactly. I mean, i-i-…
- Clive:
- I mean, I’m not going to go: "FUCKING ‘ELL!! Shit! Tit! Bum! Arsehole!", because I don’t need to.
- Derek:
- (laughing) Of course you’re not going to. It’s…
- Clive:
- What is the point?
- Derek:
- Exactly! What is the point?
- Clive:
- What is the point of saying: "Fuck! Shit! Tit! Bum! Arsehole!"
- Derek:
- "Cunt! Arsehole! Shit! Tit-lickers!"
- Clive:
- "Cunt! Arsehole! Tit! Tit! Tit!"
- Derek:
- "Bum! Tit! Bra!"
- Clive:
- "Cut your tits off! Fuck! Tit! Bum! Shit!" No!
- Derek:
- "Fuck! Cunt! Oh shit! Arsehole! Cunt! Fuck! Oh clitoris! Oh shit! Bum! Arse! Cunt! Tit! Fat arse! Cunt! Tit-lick-hole!"
- Clive:
- There is absolutely no point in saying: "Fuck! Tit! Shit! Bum! Arsehole!"
- Derek:
- "Oh fucking arsehole! Shit! Bum! Tit! Penis! Arsehole! Fuck! Oh Cunt! Shit! Oh Fuck! Shit!"
- Clive:
- "CUNT! PRICK! FUCK! COCK! PENIS! CUNT! SHIT! FUCK! PRICK! CUNT! ARSEHOLE! TIT! BUMHOLE! SHIT! ARSEHOLE! BUM! TIT! BUMHOLE! CUNT! SHIT!"
- Derek:
- Who the fuck wants to say: "Shit! Fuck! Cunt! D’ya fuck! Shit! Sick! Fuck-hole! Shit! Vomit! Cunt! Fuck! Arsesole! Fuck! Cunt! Oh, jam-rag, toe-rag,…
- Clive:
- There is absolutely…
- Derek:
- …fuck-arse, the old fart, snot, bum!"
- Clive:
- …no point whatsoever.
- Derek:
- "Oh, earwax, cunt, fart, arseholes, dandruff!"
- Clive:
- There is no-, no,…
- Derek:
- "Oh, ear-smegma, shit, arse, fuck, bogies!"
- Clive:
- …there is no point whatsoever in using these…
- Derek:
- "Oh, buggers-up, tit, arsehole, cunt, fuck, filling!"
- Clive:
- …stupid words for shock effect.
- Derek:
- "Oh, cavity, arsehole, bum, orifice, cunt, shove it up your arse, bum, cunt, arse, sick!"
- Clive:
- And there I’m afraid we have to leave, um,…
- Derek:
- Who the fuck wants to say: "Shit! Arse! Cunt! Tear your tits off, oh, put them in the mangle,…
- Clive:
- …Critics Forum.
- Derek:
- …stuff your bollocks up your arse!"
- Clive:
- I’ll be here together with Sir George Makepeace…
- Derek:
- Oh, who wants to say: "Glad-mushrooms, I like that, urethra catheterised up your enema asks-, says, ‘how far passed the arsehole?’"
- Clive:
- Sir-, Sir George Makepeace and I will be here again for…
- Derek:
- "Oh, tit, brum-, brear-, bra, brew-jug, fuck, cunt, tit!"
- Clive:
- …Critics Choice…
- Derek:
- "Oh, shit-a-dee-bum-soo!"
- Clive:
- …at the same time next Sunday…
- Derek:
- "Oh, fuck-a-dee-arse-an-ah-ma-fadoo!"
- Clive:
- …at six o’clock.
- Derek:
- "Oh, put your foreskin over your head, fart up your bum, who pulls a cunt!"
- Clive:
- I mean, when I want to say, "Fuck!", I don’t want to say, "Radiator!"
- Derek:
- I don’t want to say all of that!
- Clive:
- I don’t want to say, "Radiator!"
- Derek:
- Why’d I want to say all of the things that I’ve just said?
- Clive:
- Do you want to say, "Radiator!"?
- Derek:
- No, I fucking DON’T!! I DO NOT WANT TO SAY ALL OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE JUST FUCKING SAID.